As is tradition.

Yep, while the UK police are busy throwing anti-genocide protesters into prisons. Definitely not even slightly fascist.

Ceci n’est pas une pipe springs to mind!

I’m happy to be known as someone who thinks that propagating the unhinged anti-communist sentiment of Senator Joe McCarthypro-establishment Democrats is a moral and political failing.

Yet another acolyte of McCarthy showing their true colours.

And you’re also free to do anything you want in business so long as it makes money, and if millions die because of it then that’s just the “free market” at work Right, healthcare CEOs?

You can report any comments you think are not following the site rules, as someone did with yours.

When posting on other instances be sure to follow their rules in future.

Lol if LW leave this post up I will be amazed.

They seem to be arguing its ok to weaponize homophobic bigotry against someone who is themselves a bigot. But I simply don’t agree. That’s like saying it’s ok to be racist against a black person simply because they are homophobic. Or that it’s ok to be homophobic towards closeted people. IMO either it’s wrong to use “gay” as a slur or it’s not. And just because its a commonplace slur, and most straight people don’t seem to think about, or care, about it’s psychological impact on gay folk, doesn’t mean it’s suddenly ok to use just because its politically expedient.

These jokes are in poor taste. The joke is basically “Trump gay, haha”. How is that not simple homophobia? I mean I despise the POS, but using “gay” as a pejorative is commonplace bigotry. There’s no shortage of legitimate criticisms, so why stoop to this?

Regardless of whether you think slurs are “made up” or not, free speech absolutism is an open invitation to bigotry. That’s why so many libertarians & right wingers are into the idea.

But yet again (because this happens on every critical vote) they won’t face any consequences for their “betrayal”. The real traitors are the Democratic leadership like Chuck Schumer who once again allowed this to happen, and who according to some sourced, “negotiated” the deal in the first place.

Fyi, victim blaming sexual assault survivors for not doing more to protect themselves from men is totally unacceptable conduct.

Now just let him run for president ffs and lets get this party started!

But no, you’ll only be allowed to choose from Kamala and Gavin.

you doin’ ok? maybe don’t hang out with libs for a bit?

I think that I didn’t say anything at all in any of my comments that could be misconstrued as taking a position one way or the other.

and yet…

What if they’re wearing them around you because you punch people in the face for odd reasons.

That seems a lot like you are saying you disapprove of them but you you think a punch in the face is way over the top, right? So your problem is mostly with the offhand hyperbole of cassandrafatigue saying they should be “punched in the face”? The whole civility bit?

You have created strawman position out of thin air, assumed that I believe the thing that you just made up and then accused me of being a bootlicker because of this imaginary position that you yourself just invented.

I never accused you of anything. I asked you a question to clarify what you were saying. You seem to be confusing me with cassandrafatigue?

You’re either trying to farm outrage and division, or you’ve spent too much time in social media spaces where this kind of behavior is promoted. Either way it’s toxic and, assuming you’re a real person, you should really step away from social media.

Again, not sure what comment I made supports any of those assertions, at all. Literally the only thing I said to you was:

You don’t think ubiquitous surveillance is something people should get upset about? Those things will be hooked up to flock in about 5 seconds flat.

It isn’t normal or healthy to have kneejerk paranoid reactions to disagreements. It isn’t normal to think punching people in the face for wearing consumer electronics is acceptable behavior. These are behaviors driven by paranoia, not rationality.

Define normal and healthy. Would it be the ability to have simply replied to my question with something like…

I do think it’s worth getting upset about, just not to the extent of punching someone in the face.

… or some other reasonable response?

Anyway I’ll leave you to your faux outrage.

You don’t think ubiquitous surveillance is something people should get upset about? Those things will be hooked up to flock in about 5 seconds flat.

I agree the data shows more men commit suicide than women. All I’m pointing out is that if you factor in the risk profiles based on other characteristics (like race) then cis white men are orders of magnitude less likely to commit suicide than non-white men, trans men, gay men, etc. They are a low risk group, comparatively.

The suicide rates amongst white people (3.1% in the US) are lower than nearly any other group, according to the CDC.

In 2023, the overall U.S. age-adjusted suicide rate was 14.1 per 100,000. Rates were lowest among non-Hispanic Asian (Asian) persons (6.5) and highest among non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) (23.8), non-Hispanic White (White) (17.6), and non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander (NH/PI) persons (17.3) (Table) (Supplementary Figure). During 2018–2023, although overall U.S. age-adjusted suicide rates did not change, age-adjusted rates did change by race and ethnicity, increasing significantly among non-Hispanic Black or African American (Black) (25.2%) and Hispanic persons (10.0%) and declining significantly among White persons (3.1%). Rate differences among NH/PI persons were not significant because of small numbers. From 2021 to 2023, overall rates among AI/AN persons declined significantly (15.3%).

Additionally, this study shows that only 1.4% of cisgender males have seriously attempted suicide requiring medical care, compared to 15.4 percent of trangender men, for example. So yes, of course suicide and depression are a reality for white men, but trans men are doing 11x worse, for example. That’s why it seems pathetic for straight white men to be complaining they are the victim here.