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  • This is not a feature as such, but I’d argue that their Server Discovery tools being technically open to any server (unlike Discord) make it a valuable option for people wanting to make new chat communities as compared to Discord where you’re forced to rely on sites like Disboard to attain any server visibility unless you roll in with a large audience sourced from elsewhere.

    But yeah, in terms of features - they are playing catchup first beyond they can innovate any little quirks that Discord doesn’t and won’t have.






























  • I think you will find that most forums before Digg and Reddit did have rules. There is some revisionism from muh free speech types that seek to redefine them as free speech zones, when many were not.

    Moreover, many clients and apps that were had much smaller userbases.


    The point about the CP here is that you are saying that it would remain technically on the systems you are referring to.


  • So the child porn still remains present, effectively.

    So Ada described Nostr like this:

    "Nostr uses relays. In some ways, a relay is like an instance on the fediverse. Where they differ though, is that a) relays don’t talk to each other and b) users can sign up to many different relays and pull/push content to all of them.

    So in practice, in order to see a wide amount of content, you need to end up connecting to multiple relays. And even though a relay does have some moderation capabilities to block content, unless every relay you use blocks the content from the bigoted account, you’ll see it.

    If you signed up only to a single relay, and that relay had good moderation, then in theory, your Nostr experience wouldn’t be terrible, but a single niche relay like that will mean you see basically no content. And as soon as you connect to a larger public relay to get more content, you lose all of the moderation advantages offered by your first instance. Which means in practice, there is no incentive to run a well moderated instance.

    And so all of the moderation ends up on the end user, who has to manually block accounts only after they appear and dump their load of hate (at which point, the bigot will just spin up another account). Some people prefer that experience, but when you’re the regular target of hate, that approach just doesn’t work for many folk."

    This is accurate?




  • Yup, better.

    Why is that better?

    Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a “moderation community” that publishes tags their client would follow.

    Debateable given that any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

    And what do you mean by “tags” here? Just hashtags or something else? Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

    Far better than moderators we don’t get to choose.

    Well I suggest you go there then, because the fediverse will never be what you want it to be.






  • My point is that the threat of legal action was enough that major sites decided not to risk it, and blocked Europe et al.

    And has 4chan done the same to UK after Ofcom sent them any messages? No, they haven’t. There’s no meaningful difference between being blocked by a country and blocking them yourself. If we eventually block 4chan, then we do that - but no way would the current US administration accept any attempted fines against them.

    4chan is hardly a financial/corporate entity (though they do seem to profit off traffic with ads), therefore much harder to go against, but blocking the service is still effective. It will be up to 4chan to see if they want to comply with the law and get unblocked or if they can live without Australian traffic.

    Right, but that’s all I mean. They can’t do anything to 4chan otherwise.

    (And this law, comically enough - doesn’t really apply to them in the first place because they don’t have account signups).