It is brain washing. They have been convinced that Democrats are so much worse for so long that they think of they had voted another way, somehow they would be having an even harder time.
It has become a matter of faith not logic. This is just a test of their faith and it will all come good in the end.
I think they are more like cell mates. Stuck in the same small room. Can’t leave. Warden checks on them periodically and gives them terrible food to eat…
When you shit your pants regularly, having lots of the same suit makes it easier to do a quick change and not have it noticed.
Strong “don’t want to pick sides” vibes
Yeah the logic always stuns me.
“If I vote for a Democrat they’ll probably take some of my money through taxes and I’ll be poor”
Trump wins and ruins their business, they lose all of their money.
“At least I’m not poor because of evil Democrat taxes”
They have truly been brainwashed. Whatever bad shit republicans do they still believe the Democrats must be worse, because the republicans told them so. Even though the republicans have provably been lying to them for years.
If you give people no credit for admitting they were wrong or give them no chance to atone, then you give them no reason to do it and they will continue down the path they are on. To me it is preferable that she stops being toxic vs her continuing if those are the two choices.
I am not saying she should be forgiven, but if she is genuine, and that remains to be seen (she has a lot of work to do to prove that), then continuing to punish or otherwise vilify her, sends her the message that she’s damned is she does and she’s damned if she doesn’t so why not continue being toxic. Why should she try to be better?
If she continues to atone and does some very positive things in future (again doubtful) there should at least be some consideration given that she may have changed.
I didn’t actually say she was deprogramming anyone, just that she is in a position where she could.
That said, the fact that she is speaking out against him has unquestionably lead other people to doubt him.
Whether she is trying to take his place is not a point I tried to address directly, but I do believe she is behaving this way because she sees it as a way to further her own political career.
My most charitable thinking about this is that she s always just playing to win. The way she acted was just that, an act. She did it because she knew it appealed to a particular segment of society that could get her elected. Now there is a sea change she is smart enough to know MAGA is doomed and she had jumped ship early because she thinks it will be more politically advantageous in the long run.
She may be genuinely remorseful if she is good for her, but it doesn’t erase the things she had voted for, against, and the things she said that harmed people or incited violence deliberately or accidentally.
That said, she is somewhat uniquely positioned to assist in the deprogramming of MAGA members so, though I don’t trust her, the things she is doing and saying today are leading people away from Trump, and that is the most vital mission right now.
You don’t think it’s progressive that the USA has its first black president closely followed by it’s first orange president? I’d say that’s a society that is closer to saying it doesn’t see colour.
Seriously though, I think the fact America hasn’t had a female leader is strange for a country that used to claim to be the greatest nation on earth.
Well of course, but then you never had the possibility of eating as much as you want as an adult to begin with.
Well that’s my point, as a child unless you have type 1, you tend to be able to eat as much sugar as you want without harmful effects. Only parents hold you back.
As an adult you have no parents telling you not to do you could theoretically eat as much as you want (OPs point)… Unless you have type 2 in which case your blood glucose levels need to be considered so you can’t just eat as much as you want long term.
Except late onset diabetes. Enjoy it while you can.
Well maybe I am, but I also think there is a tendancy to dismiss a lot of trump’s behaviour as delusional, or dumb when I see it as intentional malice with moments of dementia woven in.
I do think he is not very bright, but not so dumb as many want to believe. It feels good to think of him as dumb, but the fact of the matter is he convinced tens of millions of people to vote for him. He has steam rollered the USA and imposed his will. He is clever enough to have understood his to manipulate the public masterfully up to his second election, despite being a convicted felon by that point. To say he is stupid and somehow lucked his way into all of that is not impossible but improbable. I think his issue now is that he underestimated how the public would respond as he got positive reinforcement for many years even when doing harmful things because of his blind support from MAGA. He underestimated how much they would put up with.
It is entirely possible that he pulled the number out of the air but I don’t think that’s how he works. Some of what he says is rooted in a truth that he then distorts and exaggerates to serve him, which is why I think the number comes from his deliberate misunderstanding than from nowhere.
The deception doesn’t require him to accept he was wrong. It requires mental gymnastics. Something he has proven to be an Olympic gold medalist at.
Just to be clear I am not defending him I am advising caution. Writing him off as stupid means you are in some way excusing his actions as being accidental and leads to the “of its just trump being trump” rhetoric that has let him get away with so much. He is a dangerous, dangerous man. I can’t decide if he believes the things he says or simply wants you to believe the things he says. I lean towards the latter.
As I wrote this I am reminded of Boris Johnson who is someone who spent a great deal of time convincing the UK public he was a harmless, likeable idiot. He was not. He was an intelligent, deceptive man who wore his public image like a mask to hide his nefarious intent. Boris is not trump of course, but I see Boris as a cautionary tale and it makes me view Trump differently than I perhaps would if Boris had not existed.
Fully accept I may be wrong about all of this, but just want to share my opinion.
I’m not sane washing. I believe it’s how he sees it and now he’s probably been told that’s not how it works, he continues to use this method as a way to make the number bigger. So it crosses from idiocy to deliberate deception. IMO
Why is no one concerned about how unfair this is for the puppy?
More importantly does Tim Cook know he’s Ellen DeGeneres?
When he says he’s going to reduce drugs by thousands of percent, I think he looks at the price of drug x in, for example, Germany and sees a price of $10 then he looks at the price in the USA of $160. So the USA price is 1600% of the Germany price.
He claims to reduce them to the Germany price, and then screws up on how percentages work and says he’ll reduce it by 1600%, instead of what he should say, which is reducing it by 94%.
So that’s how I understand the comments he makes. Either way he’s full of shit and won’t actually reduce them at all, but I think I get why he thinks he is correct in stating percentages in the thousands.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding and I bet ADHD people agree with his assessment, but don’t we all have multiple thoughts at the same time. The list he had for the ADHD brain is some kind of list I can imagine having in my brain at one time. I think the difference between the two brains is the ability to prioritise. The thoughts all nag, but you have to choose one to deal with first. If you can’t prioritise e.g when stressed or perhaps if you have ADHD overwhelm going on you procrastinate and then the task list sits unchanged and gets more and more daunting as time goes on and it becomes a loop. So in short, I think the difference is the threshold for procrastination because we all really fall into procrastination, but I’m neurotypical (AFAIK) so I can only speak to my own experience of how my brain works and contrast with this analogy.
Of course they are. They want to shine a spotlight on the most prominent Democrat in the files so that he becomes associated with the files. They either hope the association changes from trump to Clinton or that the Democrats will see one of their idols in the cross hairs and back down.
We all know though that the Democrats stated position though is if anyone did wrong, prosecute regardless of politics.
Trump doesn’t seem to realise his documented close association with Epstein makes his absence from the files that are released highly suspicious. If it really is innocent, then realising all of the evidence would clear Trump. Instead he is releasing non incriminating things about Clinton and redacting everyone else. I mean they really do not respect the American people at all, they think they are dumb and can be manipulated into believing whatever they want. Except it isn’t working this time…